"Rape becomes love. I can't stand that."

"Rape becomes love. I can't stand that."
Rape becomes love. I can't stand that. I have a plot line where my MC takes advantage of his freind and roommate. It wasn't forcable, more a case of taking advantage of her vulnerability. But rape by any other name. “You act like you don’t know me and the way you stared at the mirror. You really don’t remember me?” “Oh I remember you, just one thing I wish I could forget.” Jane stiffened up and she dropped his hand. Her sad look became almost angry. “Never forget what you did, I cannot believe you would do that. You bloody raped me. I was stoned and you climbed in this bed and raped me.” The anger turned to tears. “I enjoyed making love to you, I wanted to make love to you, but not like that. And then bragging that you got in my pants. I didn’t think that I could hate you and love you but Holly finished it.” She became angry again

I've had an idea running around in my head for the past few weeks, relating more to the Stockholm Syndrome than rape, but it's still a touchy subject. I think, for me, it depends on the characters involved. *waits for the flames for THAT one* I've had a few rape scenarios (in my work and Mychael/Shayne work), but none of it involved the victim loving the rapist.

relating more to the Stockholm Syndrome As a former cop, SS people scared me more. You had a good idea what the bad guys would do, the SSers were loose cannons who could get everybody killed. Just my POV on that subject.

*nods* The idea floating in my head is far from pleasant.

For me that plotline that would be hard for me to accept--most likely. It depends on how much violation she feels and how you work with her emotions on it. It depends on how everything plays out, but chances are I'd have a hard time accepting any kind of sexual assault being the start of a healthy relationship. Key word: healthy. Unhealthy? Sure. What you have set up here seems like a date rape situation which means the woman has been violated by a friend. Talk about trust issues. I know a chick who is rather outgoing, talkative and stuff. Kind of a all strangers are friends you haven't met yet kind of person. Put her infront of a man with brown hair and brown eyes, she can't get words out of her mouth and can not look them in the eye. And this is 25 years after the fact. It wasn't just one attack so maybe that's a bad example. Rape is a touchy subject for me. I think it has a place in fiction, but, generally, not as a start of a relationship. The trust issues are a huge hurddle. I wouldn't totally rule it out and say it can't be done. It just needs to be done carefully. There'd have to be a lot of explaination for me to accept it.

I say it entirely, entirely depends. It can be done convincingly. I am convibced it can be convincig.

The only example I’ve ever read where this situation is done well… (my opinion only) see Special Forces... http://www.marquesate.org BIG FAT EDIT!!! Sorry, didn't mean to re-title your work!! http://www.marquesate.org

I say it entirely, entirely depends. It can be done convincingly. I am convibced it can be convincig. I wasn't fast enough... :lol:

seems like a date rape situation which means the woman has been violated by a friend. The MC has lived with girl and are close but not bf-gf. She is stoned and sleeping it off in his bed. He takes adavantage and she lets him have sex with her. If she was sober she probably would not had allowed it. She reacts to him, drugs or desire or both? But he brags in front of her and pays the price before returning in time to redeem himself. So she was violated by a guy she lives with. Has had to face him every day since then and had to deal with him telling everyone. So now everyone knows... I wanna know why 1) She didn't move out. 2)He's still has his dick. 3)He still has breath. LOL! I'm sure it can be done and done well, but I'm not the writer for it. That's for sure. Kind of reminds me of one time in HS where this guy bragged that he had sex with a galpal of mine (they didn't and she was a prominent Christian leader in the student body. He spread the lies to smear her rep.) The more she denied it the more people believed it. One time the passed in the hallway and he made some kind of crude comment and she'd had enough. She bellowed to the halls, "Yeah, and it was the worst lay of my life. Why do you even keep that thing between your legs if you don't know how to use it." He started denying they had sex that day. Edit: No clue why that came to mind. O.o

Anything that breaks clear consent will lose you one group of readers and gain another. Within erotic romance 'forced seduction' is a subgenre with followers.

Anything that breaks clear consent will lose you one group of readers and gain another. Within erotic romance 'forced seduction' is a subgenre with followers. I never thought forced seduction was rape, but then again I might be defining rape way too narrowly.

I think of ‘rape”, as a brutal, physical, violent attack that usually has very little to do with sex. ‘Forced seduction’ conjures, for me, romantic, sexy fantasy. Erotic Romance plays with forced seduction in many forms, but overcoming a physical act of violence that does not attempt to play on any sort of previous attraction or unfulfilled fantasy is really hard to bridge into some form of romantic relationship.

Steven Donaldson did it in his 2nd Thomas Covenant series.

Re: "Rape becomes love. I can't stand that."
“Never forget what you did, I cannot believe you would do that. You bloody raped me. I was stoned and you climbed in this bed and raped me.” Never forget what you did, I cannot believe you would do that. You bloody force seduced me. I was stoned and you climbed in this bed and force seduced me. Nahh, that won't work. Now seduced by the Force, thats another matter. Frivolity aside, Mrs MC felt she had been raped considering his overall treatment of her.

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